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[?] Warden Elemental Manipulation

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 04:56 PM

My dilemma began when I found this on the Wanderer's wiki page: "Wanderers tend to find that their elemental abilities are slower to develop than those of a Warden, largely due to the fact that a Wanderer will not use them quite as often as a Warden would, but many find that the freedom is worth the trade-off." I took "elemental abilities" to mean the elemental manipulation (EM) skill, and inferred that Wardens have a bit more specialization in it, learning it quicker than their Wanderer counterparts. However, this is a bit misleading, as Wardens can only increase their Urbanitis to level four, a prerequisite for EM, whereas Wanderers can level the skill to its max of five and thus get EM to level five as well, potentially.

This makes another quote in the wiki page for EM troublesome, under the description of the fifth level: "Needs no source (Wardens only) unless in an environment totally devoid of their element." If Wardens cannot get Urbanitis to five, they cannot get EM to five, and thus this description is meaningless.

I understand that with other skill benefits Wardens have comparable elemental ability with Wanderers (potentially 10 effective skill level to 9); I just wanted to bring up the discrepancies I noticed.

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Maybe I am misunderstanding this section in the Urbanitis skill description on the wiki:

"A weakness of:

Nymphs (up to level 4 only)
Wanderers (max)
Wardens (up to level 4 only)"

It is ambiguous as to what "weakness" means in this context. Assuming you are leveling the skill up, the Nymph should feel less weak when abandoning their element, with more durability before the onset of sickness and death, and yet it seems to be quantifying weakness instead of resistance to that weakness. Unless the wiki is suggesting that "urbanitis" is a disease of some sort set upon nymphs by the developing world, and the skill tracks how far the weakness (to society) has possessed the nymph? If so, I think that the wiki article for urbanitis could be altered for clarification.

Also, in a description of a skill, seeing the phrases "up to level 4 only" and "max" often indicate limiting factors in regard to the skill itself, so it appeared to me to be saying "Nymphs and Wardens can only increase their urbanitis to level 4, while Wanderers can increase it to the max, 5."

I might have read it wrong, though, and would appreciate some clarification about all this. =)
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 09:53 PM

Thanks for the heads-up, Solstice. It is more a measure of resistance to a weakness than the weakness itself, and Wanderers can upgrade to a higher level (5) of resistance to Urbanitis than other Nymphs. The difference there is to indicate that Nymphs don't have to be Wanderer/Warden to be able to upgrade to level 4, but in that case I could probably remove the Warden bit altogether.

I'll try to make the wording a bit clearer, and clarify some of those points. Thanks again! :)
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 09:55 PM

So, am I correct in assuming that only Wanderers can get EM 5?

If so, you might want to change the EM wiki under the 5th level description as I had mentioned above.
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