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[?] Evil Nymphs and other nonsense questions<3

#1 ••Fives

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:56 AM

Hey all! I'm very interested in joining, but I'm not exactly sure what direction I want to go in yet. I think I'd like to try something slightly less goodie-two-shoes than my usual... but I have some questions before I jump in and go for it if you dont mind ...

Can Nymphs be evil or bad? I assume so, but I also assume the causes for such a state would be pretty drastic...
Are there any examples of evil or outcast Nymphs out there already?
Can Nymphs be born "ugly" or deformed? If they become that way through accident, how are they viewed by their peers?
Is there any sort of mentor program I could opt in for? I feel like Im going to have a lot more questions as I get into this!

Thanks for the help!



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Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:15 PM

I know that nymphs /can/ be bad (I think the term used for it is generally Rogue). There's no rogue nymphs currently active as far as I'm aware, but there have been a few here or there in the past.

My understanding on Nymphs is that their genetics don't allow for birth defects. Emma (site admin) will be able to answer you more fully on those questions, though.

There's not currently a "mentor program" as such, but if you want help getting in the swing of things the community is generally more than willing to help. :)

#3 User is offline   Xanth Icon

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:23 AM

Hi, Fives! (lol, sorry, I couldn't help myself. (: ) Welcome to EF. I'm Emma, said admin, and I can confirm everything Russ has already said, with a few additions:

Not all Nymphs follow the Sylvan Creed, and some are more dogmatic about the rules than others. We have had a few rogue characters in the past, the most recent being Solstice's Aella Karakinos. The most important thing to note is that rogue Nymphs don't get access to regular training, which can stunt their growth in terms of their elemental skills*, and they are shunned by the vast majority of communes. The more extreme may even exile them. A Nymph who lives away from the communes will struggle less (to an extent) because non-Nymphs won't watch her so carefully or take stock of her every action, whereas a commune Nymph or even one who just lives alone in the Fae will struggle more because she'll be under constant judgement. But of course, being away from the commune she's raised in may be its own struggle.

* There are ways to get around the lack of tutelage, such as finding another rogue who abandoned the Creed after she was already trained to serve as a mentor so you can upgrade your skills, but there has to be sign of the struggle in your app and roleplay. Another problem is the bonding itself; if she's known to not follow the Creed before she bonds with her element, very few Sylphs (the priestesses) will go ahead with the ritual. You can get around that if your character either was a Creed follower until after she'd bonded, or at least pretended (well) to be, but it is something to keep in mind when thinking about your character's history and personality.

There are some exceptions to the rule, for instance the Furies are protector Nymphs permitted to use violence in defence of their commune. They're fairly rare themselves since most communes use Sidhe (male Nymphs) protectors instead, but one option I can see right off the bat is that your character starts out as a Fury (thus gaining the tutelage she'd need to upgrade her skills) and then 'turns' or abandons the Creed later. You could do it slowly over time, corrupting her a little bit with every fight as she discovers she likes killing/harming for no reason (Nymphs are permitted to nourish or take life in the Natural World to maintain the Balance, so killing just for the sake of it would be a new concept to her). Eventually, they'd catch on and exile her. You'd have the option of roleplaying this out (though it is difficult to find RP opportunities for commune Nymphs since they tend to live away from most of the other characters) or have it be her history and introduce her after she's been exiled. (Feel free to ignore this idea, by the way, it just popped into my head as I was writing.)

As for deformities, Russ is right in that their genetic make-up doesn't really allow for physical defects. Nymphs were created when Xanth gave humans a little bit of her blood (hence the inhuman beauty and physical perfection). A possibility is that the mother was somehow injured while pregnant, or maybe got sick with something that affected the foetus. What the resulting defect is would determine how the Nymphs responded. They're xenophobic but tolerant of each other as a rule, so I can't see them shunning a baby for something that happened in the womb. (Outside reactions to a Nymph that's not perfectly beautiful, on the other hand, would be very interesting. XD) Scarring from an accident would, again, depend on how the scars were sustained. If she was doing something heroic at the time of the accident, they'd treat her as a hero no matter what she wound up looking like, but if she was doing something 'wrong' then you enter into the whole "You're not a Nymph, get out!" struggle again. Though, I expect there would be quite a few individuals who just couldn't stand looking at her scars regardless.

Sorry, blathered on a bit there, but I hope it helps give you some ideas. Let us know if you need any help or want to discuss options. :D

#4 ••Phoenix

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

I have a similar idea for my potential character, and though i've read just about everything I could this site is rather complex ( which is a total plus, and why I love it), and just want to make sure. Okay, so on the wiki the main Nymph page there is a graphic that implies Sidhe can in fact wield the elements, and this is confirmed on the actual Sidhe page. It also says they can, and usually are more aggressive. But my question...Can a sidhe break free from the creed (since they are less tied to it anyway) and roam? Of course there is the restrictions to their source, which is why I want to make him a Wanderer. An "Evil" or "Villainous" Sidhe Wanderer that uses his element to carry out assassinations. I know it says Nymphs and therefore Sidhes would have an unlikely job of assassins, but I think it'd be easier for like you said above 'rogue' male to do so than anything.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

Normally, Sidhe still follow the Creed but where Nymphs usually only use the elements in 'combat' to defend themselves, Sidhe are permitted to attack without provocation if their commune or the Balance in area of nature they're responsible for (like a demesne, or in the case of Wanderers any area they're passing through) is threatened. What they're permitted to do is still considered self-defence, but it's a more proactive version than females or Furies.

However, we have established that not all Nymphs follow the Creed. It's rare that they don't; something to do with the Elemental War, which we haven't really explored so I can't go into detail about how it's effected Sylvan culture <_<). It would be much rarer still for a Nymph or Sidhe to take up assassination as a profession, but it is possible. :) I'd probably lean towards them not being raised as a Nymph because it would otherwise be very difficult for a traditionally raised Sidhe to break away from those traditions and beliefs so severely. Not that it's not possible, just that their wholes lives they would constantly be pulled back (consciously and just because it's in the Nymph nature) to the Creed. I think it would take something pretty staggering to get them to a point where they can hire themselves out as a killer, but it's definitely doable.

On another note, assassins as such are actually pretty rare themselves outside of the Anyeli Empire. People who kill for money do so normally as a broader set of skills so they'd be considered sellswords or mercenaries rather than merely assassins.

Oh, that's given me an idea for a half-breed Anyeli who, without wings, is shunned by society but still put to use and trained as a killer who can get into places normal Anyeli can't. Just think, without the wings to denote their faction, and being a Sidhe would be pretty disarming in itself. >D /tangent

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